By Stephen Bell 
 

PERTH, Australia--South Africa's mining minister wants black-empowerment groups to have a bigger stake in BHP Billiton Ltd.'s (BHP) assets in the country, which are being spun off into a new company that will have a listing on the Johannesburg stock exchange.

"We're in the process of negotiating the actual nature of the demerger with them," Ngoako Ramatlhodi, South Africa's Mineral Resources Minister, told reporters on the sidelines of a conference in the Australian city of Perth.

BHP owns aluminum, coal and manganese assets in South Africa, but plans to house them in a newly created company that will also include mining assets in Colombia and Australia. If the talks with BHP are successful, South Africa would increase black economic empowerment ownership of these mining assets.

South Africa introduced the black economic empowerment program in 2003, some years after the fall of apartheid, in an effort to improve the socioeconomic standing of the majority black population. BEE, as the policy is widely known, reaches across industries, compelling domestic and multinational companies operating in South Africa to meet such benchmarks as black ownership, skills training and development in poor communities.

Under South African law, the BEE ownership level stands at 26% of mineral assets, he said.

"I'd prefer a much bigger stake, because it makes sense to have the majority [of the population] participating. The black people of South Africa have been excluded from the economy for centuries," Mr. Ramatlhodi said.

"When somebody pulls out of that economy, they must bear in mind there are indigenous people there who have a meaningful stake, so it gives you an opportunity to transform the industry."

On Aug. 19, BHP said the new company would be based in Perth, and would have a primary listing on the Australian Securities Exchange and a secondary listing in Johannesburg. The separation would allow it to focus on producing iron ore, coal, copper and petroleum, while giving it flexibility to pay out higher dividends to shareholders.

BHP Billiton wasn't able to comment immediately on Wednesday, but has previously stated its commitment to the black economic-empowerment policy "as a national as well as a company imperative."

--Rhiannon Hoyle in Melbourne contributed to this article.

-Write to Stephen Bell at stephen.bell@wsj.com

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