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Point to Point Methodics Inc (CE)

Point to Point Methodics Inc (CE) (PPMH)

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Golden Cross Golden Cross 5 years ago
$PPMH Tier_Change: Grey Market to Expert Market

OTCM Link
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/PPMH/disclosure
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TJ1020 TJ1020 6 years ago
why not?
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soldier543 soldier543 7 years ago
no Prs,no news,no reports on any revenues.THIS STOCK IS A PIG AND ATE ALL THE STOCKHOLDERS MONEY WITH LIES.
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BAG IT BAG IT 7 years ago
PPS AT ZERO WHATS UP WITH THAT???
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ManMillion ManMillion 7 years ago
There's quite a lot going on behind the scenes - preparing audited financials, clearance letters from the SEC, etc. in preparation of the filing of the 15c211
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Yurby Yurby 7 years ago
Months of nothing and today PPMH goes from 1 cent to 5. Afraid to ask....Why?
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1manband 1manband 7 years ago
2 cents. New low?

As predicted, the volume is now essentially zero. And the stock price just keeps going lower and lower.
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
PPMH will become full reporting, Market Maker will file 15c211. Ex-CFO of FedEx instrumental in company's return to glory.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
Maybe you should call the company yourself?

Best way to get scammed is to talk to the scammer.

The claims about MM's and the SEC investigation being "positive" are ridiculous. We hear that in every SEC suspended stock. And guess what! It is NEVER true.

Absolutely NO MM will file a 15c2-11 for a company suspended by the SEC for fraud. Ain't happening.
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
You are making assumptions without facts. PPMH has been more than forthcoming, has provided months of signed financials, etc. I don't know where you get your information from. There's quite a story here, I'm told there are multiple market makers assisting in the first 15c211 and the SEC investigation results are positive. Maybe you should call the company yourself?

You seem to want/need PPMH to go away. 1manbland, that's not happening.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
That is not how it works.

FINRA is not the SEC. They are two different regulators. The process for a name change is NOT "rigorous" - it is a simple one page request form. And there is no investigation done by FINRA for a name change.

And Pink is not coming. No MM will sponsor a stock suspended for fraud.

The SEC is currently conducting a formal investigation into the Company for fraud. The stock is going nowhere.
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
1manbland FINRA/SEC approved name change. PPMH is not suspended. Name change would not have been approved for a fraud, would it? Why would the company go through such a rigorous process, including an investigation of current AND PREVIOUS management? PPMH is certainly not suspended by the SEC. It was a temporary suspension, and as soon as it expired PPMH was back trading immediately on the grey. Next is Pink!

0.05 now.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
PPMH shorters need to make some phone calls, and I mean QUICKLY!

Shorters? What shorters? PPMH has less than 10,000 shares short, and most of those are hanging on knowing the stock is going to zero from here on out. No reason to cover such a small position when you know your return will be around 100% from here.

And being gray market now, there are no new short positions being initiated.

So any claims about shorters having any kind of effect on this SEC suspended stock are ridiculous.
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Renee Renee 8 years ago
Platinum Pari-Mutuel Holdings Inc. changed to Point to Point Methodics Inc.

http://otce.finra.org/DLSymbolNameChanges
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
PPMH shorters need to make some phone calls, and I mean QUICKLY!
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
As predicted and expected, the volume here has disappeared to nothing. Essentially no one will touch a stock suspended by the SEC for fraud.
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Lobo V M/C Lobo V M/C 8 years ago
Do you know the new symbol?
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
PPMH At 0.05 Interesting spring/summer coming up.
If you thought it would be at 0.001, that's understandable, bot not reasonable in this case. Sometimes real companies with real products make a misstep. It's not impossible to fix it, especially if you address each and every issue with documentation. It especially helps when private investors have put in over $20 million in funding, and the belief in ultimate success is justified.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
2000 shares traded will soon look like a bonanza for this stock. Gray market stocks that have been suspended by the SEC are effectively dead.

If anyone wanted to bail out of their position post-suspension, they have effectively missed their chance.
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
2000 shares? $20 is not trading. Investors are patiently waiting. You see, this company has value, PPMH may trade 2,000 shares for a penny - that is effectively ZERO. If you want to buy 100,000 shares of PPMH at 0.01 it won't happen. Shorts wish they could but they can't. Just like today, the share price soared 250% on 700 shares. Effectively zero trades.

Patiently waiting.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
Now it is just a penny on 2,000 shares traded. The dramatic and sudden drop in both price and volume should not be a surprise to anyone. That is what SEC suspended stocks do when they resume trading on the gray market.

Very few people have any interest in buying a gray market stock that was suspended by the SEC for fraud.
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Alao Alao 8 years ago
I was more referring to my loss. I thought it would he worse when it was released.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
Sure. This stock is dead. Stocks suspended by the SEC for fraud which are banished to the gray market don't come back to anywhere near their price levels at the time of the suspension, much less exceed them.

No one wants to buy shares of company under formal SEC investigation for fraud.
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
1manband I will remind you of your take on PPMH.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
As expected, the post-suspension high didn't last long. Neither did the volume.

You can expect both to continue downwards toward zero as time goes on. Stocks suspended by the SEC for fraud have no significant value.
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Peggy Peggy 8 years ago
Only down 60% in one day. If that ain't too bad I don't know what bad is.
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Alao Alao 8 years ago
Well looks like it's wasn't that bad. I'm actually going to wait.
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
Back up to 0.25, 82k shares traded.

I was hoping to scoop up more.
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Trip Dreams Trip Dreams 8 years ago
Thanks. I kept bouncing around offers finally got out at .17 GLTA
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Full Contact Yoga Full Contact Yoga 8 years ago
No true ask, nor bid, matched market, pick a number you like, hope someone likes it.
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
PPMH Strong Buying, Thank You! I know some were hoping to get in lower
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Trip Dreams Trip Dreams 8 years ago
Trying to offer on the Ask hoping to get out, any buyers??
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 8 years ago
you might benefit from studying the history of other suspended frauds. there are NO success stories.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=127559570
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 8 years ago
the sec said this was fraud in the strongest terms it uses.

The Commission temporarily suspended trading in the securities of Platinum Pari-Mutuel Holdings Inc. because of questions regarding the accuracy and adequacy of publicly available information in Platinumโ€™s press releases, since at least July 2016, and financial information that it disclosed to the public via OTC Markets โ€œDisclosure & News Service.โ€ Those questions concern, among other things, the valuation of recent corporate acquisitions and projections concerning future revenues. In addition, we have concerns about third-party promotional materials to which the company has been subject since at least November 2016. This order was entered pursuant to Section 12(k) of the Exchange Act.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
No, actually PPMH was suspended mostly for a technicality.

Sorry, but no. We hear the same BS in every SEC suspended stock. The SEC doesn't make mistakes, and doesn't suspend for "technicalities". They suspend for fraud, which the SEC already discovered prior to the suspension.

And the suspension is not the end, it is the end of the beginning. The SEC, and perhaps the DOJ as well, will now be conducting a formal investigation which can continue for up to 5 years.
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 8 years ago
With the demand high and supply low, the share price will have upward pressure.

lol. everyone always thinks that their suspended fraud will be the exception, that somehow a miracle will occur and it won't drop 50 to 90% when it re-opens for trading. this isn't that exception.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
Except that PPMH was not suspended by the SEC because it was real. It was suspended because it wasn't.

The SEC suspended PPMH for fraud.
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
PPMH has real IP and value. I think there are 2 types of individuals that would welcome the share price dropping to pennies.

1) Shorters - as long as the required PPMH shares to cover are available, which you and I don't agree on

2) Anybody that has done their due diligence MIGHT be DELGHTED to get in at a lower price. This will also create demand for PPMH shares.

With the demand high and supply low, the share price will have upward pressure.
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Full Contact Yoga Full Contact Yoga 8 years ago
Actually, completely untrue, old wives tale. But, irrelevant, it will open on the grey market, same CUSIP, down a ton, minimum 50% to start IMO...
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 8 years ago

Remember, a name and CUSIP change forces naked shorters to cover. period.

that is complete and total nonsense. any mythical naked shorters have the name and symbol change just like everyone else.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
It is beyond the scope of my posting here to point you to the resources to understand naked shorting, and how to find out what that position actually is.

Seriously? Those "resources" are bogus. Just conspiracy BS that is not factual in any way.

"Naked" shorting absolutely shows up in the FINRA numbers. This is where the naked shorting argument falls apart. The transfer agent knows, to the SECOND, how many common shares have been issued. They also know, to the SECOND, how many shares are owned (naked short shares have to be sold to someone, and those shares go to the transfer agent for transfer). So if there are any naked shares short, much less millions or hundreds of millions, the transfer agent knows it and reports it. The stock would show up on the Reg Sho list.

But PPMH is NOT on the Reg Sho list. There are no naked shorts. That claim is absolutely boloney.

a name and CUSIP change forces naked shorters to cover

No, it doesn't. More of the "I read it on the internet so it must be true!" BS. Not factual at all.
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
Do you understand naked shorting of PPMH? It is shorting PPMH shares that haven't transactionally been borrowed yet. That is not the same as traditional shorting of PPMH, which is a small 10k shares or so.

It is beyond the scope of my posting here to point you to the resources to understand naked shorting, and how to find out what that position actually is.

The problem with a naked short on PPMH - There are not enough shares in regular circulation to cover. THAT is a real problem - and now opening on the Grey market means not as much visibility to find even those shares. So in a case like that, opening on the Grey market can cause the price to rise as naked shorters try to buy up everything they can. Why, you might ask?

Remember, a name and CUSIP change forces naked shorters to cover. period.

Peggy, et al - why are you issuing profanity-laced tirades to me in private? What do you hope to accomplish by doing that? You only serve to weaken your position and strengthen my resolve, obviously you wouldn't put so much emotion into your comments...unless you were worried. That twinge you just felt in your stomach? That's excess acid.

I love you all - especially the haters. Peggy, have a good lunch today. Remember, not too spicy, it will be bad for your heartburn.
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1manband 1manband 8 years ago
Alao shorters will have to cover

Shorts? You mean all 10,946 shares of short interest?

http://otce.finra.org/ESI

PPMH is finished. It will reopen on the gray market with no bid or offer, so trading will be wild, scattered, and light. All orders will have to be matched, so a current holder might get lucky at a higher price for a small number of shares, but you can expect the price to drop by at least 50% fairly quickly.
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Full Contact Yoga Full Contact Yoga 8 years ago
Covering will be effortless, it will lose a minimum of 50% instantly, likely, more...shorts aren't part of the equation at all anyway, but, banishment to the grey market is never pretty. Sub penny within 5 trading days wouldn't surprise me...
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ManMillion ManMillion 8 years ago
Alao shorters will have to cover. If you hold out they'll be hosed. Hopefully you ask for 0.30.
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Peggy Peggy 8 years ago
Way less than 250
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 8 years ago
When it opens I'll probably get $250.

if you are lucky.
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Alao Alao 8 years ago
Well I only had $500 up in this stock. When it opens I'll probably get $250. Lesson learned..
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Full Contact Yoga Full Contact Yoga 8 years ago
You're right. Misread the date as a 3, too small a font for filings on an old iPhone...
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 8 years ago
actually;

The Securities and Exchange Commission (โ€œCommissionโ€) announced the temporary
suspension, pursuant to Section 12(k) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the โ€œExchange
Actโ€), of trading in the securities of Platinum Pari-Mutuel Holdings Inc. (PPMH) of Memphis,
Tennessee at 9:30 a.m. on February 16, 2017, and terminating at 11:59 p.m. on March 2, 2017.

this will be able to trade on friday, 03/03/17.



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