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Nikola Corporation

Nikola Corporation (NKLA)

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Closed 05 February 8:00AM
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 12 hours ago
“but maybe a big partner buys 80% via new shares (in essence for free) and agrees to invest $500MM ccash over the next 18 months”

Wow…maybe the tooth fairy and Santa Claus will join together and do it…

“give the stock to my kids”

Probably far better off selling it now and giving them the cash, because in a few years, they might not be able to buy an ice cream with the proceeds…
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 20 hours ago
Agree
and I know I have to be diluted ---- but maybe a big partner buys 80% via new shares (in essence for free) and agrees to invest $500MM ccash over the next 18 months

I stay an owner - diluted big again - but an owner and give the stock to my kids
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TheKRA TheKRA 20 hours ago
Up 10% now. I have to wonder who is buying, and why. I'd like to hope something good is going on, but I've unfortunately lost a lot of hope in the company.
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 21 hours ago
And yes - if I knew that buying now would make me a 20% owner of a 250M issued and outstanding common share company with 500MM cash --- i would buy before the news and dilution
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 22 hours ago
Up six cents
Yes - - just six cents --- but up ?

In two - four months I simply want to be some sort of owner of NKLA (maybe diluted by issuing say 200 Million NEW shares to a "partner" that then is 80% owner of some joint venture or ?

But buying into a ferocious cash burn with no news from the company - surprises me
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 5 days ago
oops
but not selling --- at this point
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 5 days ago
one days burn rate is my guess
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Bruno2 Bruno2 6 days ago
Jan 30, 2025 : Mullen Completes Purchase of Additional Nikola Battery Assets for US Battery Production

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2025/01/30/3018137/0/en/Mullen-Completes-Purchase-of-Additional-Nikola-Battery-Assets-for-US-Battery-Production.html
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Torez Torez 6 days ago
Yes, this company is a SCAM
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 1 week ago
"but a ton - and more companies are exploring H as a power source for Trucks and Cars and Forklifts and Factories"

trucks aint working...cars aint working...forklifts seem to be a thing...i should think factories could be a thing...in the future...but not at the moment...

"and you watch for AI DATA centers"

The Chinese AI app "DeepSeek" just blew all our AI stuff out of the water...they did theirs at a fraction of the cost and using only a fraction of the energy and utilized chips that were considered inferior to NVDA's...and its a better product...havent you noticed all the companys that are dropping in price as a result...so far, it looks like all the power that was thought to be needed to run AI will not be necessary...

"but NKLA does need to find 500M or so to carry it to cash neutral"

NKLA needs to put on a red dress and high heels and stand under a street light...it needs to sell itself before it becomes literally worthless...

solar power and hydrogen are two different things...
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 week ago
SPAM
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 week ago
yup
dimmer chances

but a ton - and more companies are exploring H as a power source for Trucks and Cars and Forklifts and Factories and you watch for AI DATA centers

but NKLA does need to find 500M or so to carry it to cash neutral and with DJT that is not coming from GOV but it was not coming from GOV under BIDEN either

H will prove itself or not ---- we will see --- and at that point it matters not political climate (see Solar Power grow and grow and grow - and watch that continue after Biden)
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Torez Torez 1 week ago
There are no trucks - all CGI/AI generated. 0 trucks on the road - ATH $90 to almost zero - thats your proof 
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 1 week ago
“Yet - people buy shares and the company makes trucks and talks to potential partners”

Yes, investors lose money everyday in Nkla…the company is still selling trucks at a huge loss…and talking costs nothing thank goodness or Nkla wouldn’t be able to afford it…

In a political climate where hydrogen was thought to be the next big thing and billions of Fed dollars were going to be thrown at it, and Nkla could not manage to make a go of it…

And now that the political climate is turning against hydrogen, seriously, what are nkla’s chances?….
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 week ago
without spitting on others

I agree that buying now does not make sense - and I think its 4-6 months that I have been saying that

Yet - people buy shares and the company makes trucks and talks to potential partners
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 week ago
I would like to stay an owner but

but at current valuation of my shares

I would be in favor of a white knight

yet prefer some sort of partnership - as rumored about Hyundai - that would give current equity say 10-49 percent ownership

is there a hat with a rabbit in it nearby
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 1 week ago
"and I would like to see Q4 sales numbers"

what for?...this company is toast...the pps was in the $30's when nkla said they wanted to r/s...it was in the $10 range when they actually did the r/s in late June....the pps now is 88 cents...

in 7 months, this company just rendered a 1-30 r/s useless...nkla cant make a profit selling the trucks they make because they lose $200k per truck...the sales numbers are meaningless...they will never sell enough trucks to make a profit...they have a shot if they ever get to the 2.0 trucks...but even then, its not much a shot...and who knows when they get there anyway...

anyone who had 100k shares before the first split, now has 3.3k shares....and if nkla does another 1-30 split, they will have 111 shares...

anyone that is still holding this stock is doing so because theres no real point in selling what they have...its peanuts now...may as well just hold and hope for the best...

i cant imagine why anyone would be interested in investing at this point....or really, any point...
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uksausage uksausage 1 week ago
saw HYLA weekly numbers - doing "Record" fills and volume every week but still no Q4 delivery report which I expect was well within expectations.

Company seems to be in some sort of management spiral.

Hopefully they sell to private equity who can inject necessary cash to get FCEV 2.0 to volume production and profitability.

unfortunately current shareholders will lose out but the company and future of emission free vehicles could be saved.
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 week ago
yup if

it comes down to --- how does NKLA raise the cash needed ------ and or does it fail to raise the cash needed

and I would like to see Q4 sales numbers
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 1 week ago
"but its not likely that the 11 papers are at the lawyers as reported here and there --- and the PPS on one half million shares is down "only a penny" ??"

from the Jan 6 high to today's low, is drop of over 50%...many have bailed out of this stock...those who are still hanging on will see another steep drop if bad news is actually reported instead of rumored...
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 week ago
with stocks around $1 there is massive speculation

but its not likely that the 11 papers are at the lawyers as reported here and there --- and the PPS on one half million shares is down "only a penny" ??

I would love to see the company report something

new trucks

or yes - they are STILL in talks with HYUNDAI or whatever
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 week ago
rumors being reported that are not fun to read

we should know more today ?

?
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AKATITUS AKATITUS 2 weeks ago
Interesting
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ptcgolf ptcgolf 2 weeks ago
The news is all over the web, Bloomberg, Reuters, and CNBC to name a few.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/shares-of-cash-strapped-nikola-nosedive-on-report-of-potential-sale/ar-AA1xKjtG?ocid=BingNewsSerp

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uksausage uksausage 2 weeks ago
yesterday afternoon it was all over twitter and stocktwits. an article on elecric-vehicles.com. or some similar web site said BK docs had been filed.

later these still AFAIK rumors were changed to investigating all options… this has ben reported on more reliable web sites but still not announced by the company AFAIK
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TheKRA TheKRA 2 weeks ago
It looks like there are seveal articles out there, including one from Reuters, and one from Bloomberg that I can't access right now, stating that Nikola is exploring all options including sales of part or all of the company. Also coinsidering bringing on partners or raising new funds. Hopefully BK isn't in the near term yet.
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TheKRA TheKRA 2 weeks ago
UK, I haven't seen anything about a switch in the CEO per your comment below. Where did you find that info? I haven't seen anything yet. Thanks.

'Just would love to have a real update from the company last nights switch from CEO out to "investigating all options" was I believe from the company but where is the PR?'
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uksausage uksausage 2 weeks ago
If you believe that I am sorry for you Jack.

FCEV is a leader in trucking and once driven drivers do not want to return to the older ICE systems.

But NIKOLA being an assembler of trucks and only contributing software and experience is a struggle.

They have national accounts trialling, they have proven millions of miles in California drayage and now longer runs.

Just would love to have a real update from the company last nights switch from CEO out to "investigating all options" was I believe from the company but where is the PR?
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Jack_Bolander Jack_Bolander 2 weeks ago
Banger - They are selling the truck that runs downhill to Comedy Central.

I had an English car like that ..... A Rolls ... A Rolls Dunhill
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uksausage uksausage 2 weeks ago
I am thinking a sale to private equity.

they need c $500m probably to 'subsidize " current FCEV to the national accounts and new dealers, plus finish development testing and permitting of FCEV 2.0

only way they can get that is to sell the company to them.

At least it will mean the company/trucks survive and the planet will be able to breathe a little easier
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 2 weeks ago
The decline doesn’t seem like BK….seems more like another r/s….or a huge amount of shares about to get dumped…or both
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Torez Torez 2 weeks ago
Scam is done
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 weeks ago
current price means

1. who knows
2. decline in sales as customers fear NKLA not around for long
3. not able to raise money they thought they had
4. it is all over
5. panic with out cause
6. Some other company buying them or merging at value of say 90 cents a share

10. Who knows

Good news - have so little original investment left to lose
Not selling
Not buying
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ptcgolf ptcgolf 2 weeks ago
BK announcement?
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ptcgolf ptcgolf 2 weeks ago
Sub $1 today...guess it will be time for another RS. Quality management by Girsky and team.

Looks like next trade entry mid .70s

JMHO
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ptcgolf ptcgolf 2 weeks ago
Another all-time low achieved....horrible management team.
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 2 weeks ago
“He and Mary have the experience of major vehicle manufacturing and understanding of what national accounts need and their processes.”

I think their knowledge and experience is NOW telling them they will not be able to sell fcev trucks in the quantity that is needed…not even close…

I’m not sure trucking companies will buy many bev’s either…

Drill baby drill…
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uksausage uksausage 2 weeks ago
Listen to the calls after Girsky was appointed CEO. not from 3 years ago.
He and Mary have the experience of major vehicle manufacturing and understanding of what national accounts need and their processes.
His interview describing his first 100 days - day one was the fires in BEVS leading to the recall.

If what we hear is true about all the BEVS being returned by end of Q4 that means Protera was able to boost battery production in Q4, but now they can be focussed on shipping FCEV (three times as many FCEV as BEV per batch of batteries. We did see FCEL VIN 351 leaving the factory by Xmas but was it shipped to a customer to count as delivered?

I expect deliveries were ahead of schedule but it is all a matter of who has been using them and when they will turn orders for 10’s into commitments to buy 100’s or 1,000s later in 2025

with those they can get supply chain prices down significantly and start making gross margin on each vehicle.
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 2 weeks ago
“listen to the earnings calls where the company strategy for FCEV sales is well explained and set out.”

They were well explained and set out less than 3 yrs ago when the pps was $350…the same was true 1 1/2 yrs ago when the pps was $100…

Now at a pps of $1.22, they think they may a handle on it now?…

Trump seems to want to pull money out of hydrogen…I don’t see how this is a positive for hydrogen vehicles or trucks…it seems most companies that have anything to do with hydrogen can’t go to the bathroom without some kind of Federal funding, subsidies or loans…

Trucking companies were facing mandates to lower their emissions…doesn’t sound like they need to worry about that for at least the next 4 yrs…

So if trucking companies are not in a hurry to buy fcev trucks and Nkla has to sell a buttload more trucks in order to stay in business, then I’d say Nkla is in deep do do…
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 weeks ago
YUP
And so the approach to hold - not buy now - and hope to have reason to load up later
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uksausage uksausage 2 weeks ago
listen to the earnings calls where the company strategy for FCEV sales is well explained and set out.
every truck manufactured is being delivered in line with this strategy - be it to national accounts for initial or follow on evaluation, new dealers, follow through orders.

what we don't have is a date for FCEV2.0 to be launched (we dont even know whoo the fuel cell manufacturer will be assuming it is still Bosche) but they state it is 50 % cheaper in parts and mostly USA suppliers which makes supply chain easier to manage.
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 weeks ago
agree

but you assume static volume of trucks and static cost to produce

if that turns out true - all is dead

if volume goes up and costs to produce go down (with new tech and volume) then a future is visible - but with diluted shares as 400-500 million is likely needed. Can not buy now - but hope to have a chance later
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 2 weeks ago
bottom line, they lose a huge amount of money with every fcev they sell...they always have...that isnt good...and its not good business...it literally makes no sense...

reworking the math does not a profit make...
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 weeks ago
While the article IMO strays too much into politcs
While this GREEN "direction" with H may be stopped by DJT
It was very interesting to read the CORE stuff this article reports going on


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-army-develops-revolutionary-replacement-for-traditional-diesel-generators-a-unique-opportunity/ar-AA1xtQPM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=f7d3a5e8a9e44ce8872059e22be91169&ei=12
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 weeks ago
https://catalysts.shell.com/en/blue-hydrogen?hsa_acc=2377408393&hsa_cam=12914334885&hsa_grp=1296324504699377&hsa_ad=&hsa_src=a&hsa_tgt=kwd-81020440123027:loc-190&hsa_kw=blue%20hydrogen%20process&hsa_mt=e&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&msclkid=55c90a34c7a61f8fe1a46dbaab317474&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Blue%20Hydrogen&utm_term=blue%20hydrogen%20process&utm_content=Blue%20Hydrogen

Did not read this SHELL article - but it seems to sit right on that question ----- in summary - how fast (soon) do H trucks need to be fully the low or no carbon world we want - and what does the phase in look like ?

if the link does not work it is under Shell Catalysts and Technologies (although I had a picture link)
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 weeks ago
Nothing new - NKLA needs cash as it loses money on sales

I assume - ??????? - that with a strong definition of MARGINAL cost to build - that NKLA adds cash to the bottom line as it sells MORE trucks. (A strong - thin definition of Added Marginal cost - e.g. assume work force would not reduce so even labor is not counted - is what I have in mind. (How much did cost - cash expenditure REALLY go up for one more or two more trucks v the cash received)

All that said - the math is the math ---- and right now - with caution - NKLA needs to add BIG chain type customers and supply BIG chain type current customers with what they want in terms of more trucks. Sometimes marketing and sales and more trucks on the road --- even if "bought with loss" is right - especially if the true extra cash spent is less than the true cash received.

The bottom line ----- to me - Is it easier for NKLA to attract the capital it needs with more sales? Do more sales and data like the increase in CA help to raise private investment or ability to borrow. Or does the potential increase in paper loss hurt worse, That is where the rubber hits the road

A 10 Million Dollar Greater semi annual GAAP loss from selling say 50-100 more trucks - may be the price needed to get 400M of equity without massive destructive dilution
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 weeks ago
Help
You likely answered this - and maybe more than one time - sorry

But can we tell from the data provided OVERALL - what the increase in FCEV from 546-610 is caused by.

I know to get on the list there needs to be some form of agreement to purchase

But I assume companies can back out
And if an actual sale is MADE ----- the transfer of money !! - does the "count" reduce

So - is an increase always positive or can it be a lack of "count not dropping due to lack of what i am calling FINAL SALES ?
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 2 weeks ago
“but significant increase for hydrogen FCEV from 546 to 610.”

Since they sell every fcev at huge losses, the increase in sales just means that they have increased their losses by a bunch…

Woo hoo…
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WeTheMarket WeTheMarket 2 weeks ago
Following is TheKRA recent post on updated total number of California HVIP vouchers for Nikola trucks at end of December 2024, and comparison to same data for end of November 2024. Note that format has changed, but the same data is provided. Slight increase from 144 to 153 for BEV, but significant increase for hydrogen FCEV from 546 to 610.
Link to California HVIP database https://californiahvip.org/impact/#deployed-vehicle-mapping-tool

Looks like they have updated numbers. The date has been added at the top of the information per the attached. New vaouchers as of 12/31 are 763.

153 BEVs and 610 FCEVs



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glenn1919 glenn1919 3 weeks ago
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