hedge_fun
2 days ago
Speaking of Groundhog Day, this gem of…….
a thread on Groundhog Day 2012 really showed off your salvage law knowledge, or lack thereof.
Off the Spanish coast.
Navy vessel sunk in naval battle.
These two characteristics make this treasure totally different from the Seafarer treasure. So none of this article applies to Seafarer.
Of course it was followed up with this the following day with this masterpiece.
Naval vessels located in international waters are legally different. All cases brought by Spain to claim rights for treasure found on coasts of Florida were won by the salvage companies that found them.
Mel Fisher spent a lot of time in court because of the deep water international water treasure he sought.
It's not guessing, it's the law and history.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=71670049
What wreck in Florida waters did Spain make a legal claim to?
Take your time.
Since SFRX still deals with Florida why not challenge the state’s claim to shipwrecks? There is precedent.
Fourth Circuit Declares Spain as Owner
Under the Abandoned Shipwreck Act of 1987 (ASA), a state acquires title to all abandoned vessels embedded within its submerged lands. In defining the term abandoned, the ASA merely provides that abandonment occurs the moment an owner relinquishes its rights to a sunken vessel. On appeal to the Fourth Circuit, Virginia and Sea Hunt argued that the ASA's definition of abandonment should permit a court to imply abandonment where a sovereign fails to declare its ownership in a timely manner. The Fourth Circuit disagreed, holding that, as under admiralty law, a sovereign owner appearing before a court to assert its ownership to a shipwreck retains title to the vessel unless an express and affirmative declaration of abandonment is proven.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/shipwreck/index12.htm
Raider21
4 days ago
Overall these conditions are workable for professionals. Can't salvage treasure that isn' there.
National Weather Service Marine Forecast FZUS52 KMLB
FZUS52 KMLB 311545
CWFMLB
Coastal Waters Forecast for East Central Florida
National Weather Service Melbourne FL
1045 AM EST Fri Jan 31 2025
Atlantic coastal waters from Flagler Beach to Jupiter Inlet out 60 nm.
Seas are provided as a range of the average height of the highest one third of the waves, along with the occasional height of the average highest ten percent of the waves.
ANZ500-010430
Synopsis for Flagler Beach to Jupiter Inlet out to 60 nm 1045 AM EST Fri Jan 31 2025
SYNOPSIS
Sea fog is forecast to develop this morning over the intracoastal and near shore waters, mainly from Saint Lucie Inlet to near Cape Canaveral. Fog could be dense at times.
High pressure will move steadily seaward as a weak cold front approaches the waters Saturday. This front is forecast to stall near or over a portion of the local Atlantic into next week as light onshore flow becomes established. Generally favorable boating conditions are expected, with the exception of poor conditions developing offshore today and tonight as south winds increase.
GULF STREAM HAZARDS
Southerly winds increasing to 15 to 20 knots north of Vero Beach and well offshore.
The approximate location of the west wall of the Gulf Stream based on the Real Time Ocean Forecast System as of Thursday, January 30th.
43 nautical miles east of Ponce Inlet. 31 nautical miles east of Port Canaveral. 25 nautical miles east of Sebastian Inlet. 16 nautical miles east of Fort Pierce Inlet. 11 nautical miles east of Saint Lucie Inlet.
AMZ550-010430
Flagler Beach to Volusia-Brevard County Line 0-20 nm
1045 AM EST Fri Jan 31 2025
REST OF TODAY
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: Southeast 3 feet at 5 seconds and northeast 1 foot at 5 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal waters.
TONIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 3 feet at 6 seconds and east 1 foot at 9 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal waters.
SATURDAY
Northwest winds 5 to 10 knots, becoming north in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: Southeast 2 feet at 5 seconds and east 2 feet at 10 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal waters.
SATURDAY NIGHT
Northeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 2 feet at 9 seconds and north 1 foot at 5 seconds. Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters.
SUNDAY
East winds around 5 knots. Seas 2 feet. Wave Detail: East 2 feet at 9 seconds and northeast 1 foot at 5 seconds. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
SUNDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds around 5 knots, becoming southwest after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 3 feet at 9 seconds and northeast 1 foot at 5 seconds. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
MONDAY
North winds around 5 knots, becoming east in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
MONDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds around 5 knots, becoming southwest after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY
Northwest winds around 5 knots, becoming northeast in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds around 5 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
AMZ552-010430
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm
1045 AM EST Fri Jan 31 2025
REST OF TODAY
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: Southeast 3 feet at 5 seconds and north 1 foot at 5 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal waters.
TONIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 3 feet at 5 seconds and east 1 foot at 9 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal waters.
SATURDAY
West winds 5 to 10 knots, becoming north in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: Southeast 2 feet at 4 seconds and east 2 feet at 10 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal waters.
SATURDAY NIGHT
Northeast winds around 5 knots, becoming east after midnight. Seas 2 feet. Wave Detail: East 2 feet at 9 seconds. Smooth on the intracoastal waters. A slight chance of showers after midnight.
SUNDAY
Southeast winds around 5 knots. Seas 2 feet. Wave Detail: East 2 feet at 9 seconds and north 1 foot at 5 seconds. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
SUNDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds around 5 knots, becoming south after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 2 feet at 9 seconds. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
MONDAY
South winds around 5 knots, becoming east in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
MONDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds around 5 knots, becoming south after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY
West winds around 5 knots, becoming east in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds around 5 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
AMZ555-010430
Sebastian Inlet to Jupiter Inlet 0-20 nm
1045 AM EST Fri Jan 31 2025
REST OF TODAY
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: Southeast 2 feet at 4 seconds and north 1 foot at 6 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal waters.
TONIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots, becoming southwest 5 to 10 knots after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: Southeast 2 feet at 5 seconds and northeast 1 foot at 5 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal waters.
SATURDAY
West winds 5 to 10 knots, becoming northeast in the afternoon. Seas 2 feet. Wave Detail: Northeast 2 feet at 9 seconds and east 1 foot at 5 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal waters.
SATURDAY NIGHT
East winds around 5 knots, becoming southeast after midnight. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Wave Detail: East 2 feet at 9 seconds and southeast 1 foot at 4 seconds. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
SUNDAY
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 feet. Wave Detail: East 2 feet at 9 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal waters.
SUNDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 feet. Wave Detail: East 2 feet at 9 seconds and southeast 1 foot at 3 seconds. Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters.
MONDAY
Southeast winds around 5 knots. Seas 2 feet. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
MONDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds around 5 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Smooth on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A light chop on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY NIGHT
East winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters.
AMZ570-010430
Flagler Beach to Volusia-Brevard County Line 20-60 nm
1045 AM EST Fri Jan 31 2025
.SMALL CRAFT SHOULD EXERCISE CAUTION
REST OF TODAY
South winds 15 to 20 knots. Seas 3 to 4 feet. Wave Detail: Southeast 3 feet at 4 seconds and east 2 feet at 10 seconds.
TONIGHT
Southwest winds 15 to 20 knots. Seas 3 to 5 feet, occasionally to 6 feet. Wave Detail: South 4 feet at 5 seconds and east 2 feet at 9 seconds.
SATURDAY
Northwest winds 10 to 15 knots, becoming northeast in the afternoon. Seas 3 to 4 feet. Wave Detail: South 3 feet at 5 seconds and north 2 feet at 4 seconds.
SATURDAY NIGHT
East winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 3 feet at 9 seconds and north 2 feet at 5 seconds. A slight chance of showers after midnight.
SUNDAY
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 3 feet at 9 seconds and north 1 foot at 5 seconds. A slight chance of showers.
SUNDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots, becoming southwest after midnight. Seas 3 to 4 feet. Wave Detail: East 3 feet at 9 seconds and northwest 1 foot at 4 seconds. A slight chance of showers after midnight.
MONDAY
West winds around 5 knots, becoming southeast in the afternoon. Seas 3 to 4 feet.
MONDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds around 5 knots, becoming south after midnight. Seas 3 to 4 feet.
TUESDAY
West winds around 5 knots, becoming north in the afternoon. Seas 3 to 4 feet.
TUESDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 3 feet.
AMZ572-010430
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 20-60 nm
1045 AM EST Fri Jan 31 2025
.SMALL CRAFT SHOULD EXERCISE CAUTION
REST OF TODAY
South winds 15 to 20 knots. Seas 3 feet. Wave Detail: Southeast 3 feet at 4 seconds and east 2 feet at 10 seconds.
TONIGHT
South winds 15 to 20 knots. Seas 3 to 5 feet, occasionally to 6 feet. Wave Detail: South 3 feet at 5 seconds and east 2 feet at 10 seconds.
SATURDAY
West winds 10 to 15 knots, becoming north 5 to 10 knots in the afternoon. Seas 3 to 4 feet. Wave Detail: East 3 feet at 10 seconds and southwest 2 feet at 4 seconds.
SATURDAY NIGHT
East winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 3 feet at 9 seconds and north 2 feet at 4 seconds. A slight chance of showers after midnight.
SUNDAY
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 3 feet at 9 seconds and north 2 feet at 5 seconds. A slight chance of showers in the morning.
SUNDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 3 feet at 9 seconds and northeast 2 feet at 5 seconds.
MONDAY
South winds around 5 knots, becoming southeast in the afternoon. Seas 3 feet.
MONDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 3 feet.
TUESDAY
Southwest winds around 5 knots, becoming northeast in the afternoon. Seas 3 feet.
TUESDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 3 feet.
AMZ575-010430
Sebastian Inlet to Jupiter Inlet 20-60 nm
1045 AM EST Fri Jan 31 2025
REST OF TODAY
South winds around 15 knots. Seas 3 feet. Wave Detail: Southeast 2 feet at 4 seconds and north 2 feet at 5 seconds.
TONIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 3 to 4 feet. Wave Detail: South 2 feet at 5 seconds and north 2 feet at 5 seconds.
SATURDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots, becoming north in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: South 2 feet at 5 seconds and east 2 feet at 9 seconds.
SATURDAY NIGHT
East winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: East 2 feet at 9 seconds and north 1 foot at 3 seconds.
SUNDAY
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: North 2 feet at 5 seconds and east 2 feet at 9 seconds.
SUNDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Wave Detail: North 2 feet at 5 seconds and east 2 feet at 9 seconds.
MONDAY
Southeast winds around 5 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet.
MONDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet.
TUESDAY
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet.
TUESDAY NIGHT
East winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 3 feet.
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hedge_fun
2 weeks ago
Does SFRX have any reps in Amsterdam?……..
If not, why not?
Maritime Users Conference
21 Jan 2015 - 22 Jan 2025
Amsterdam, Netherlands
The upcoming Exail Maritime Users Conference will be held at the National Maritime Museum in Amsterdam, Netherlands, on January 21, 2025.
The maritime industry faces a range of complex challenges, from seabed mapping and subsea inspections to critical surveys encompassing environmental, construction, archaeological, and positioning needs. The integration of autonomy and uncrewed solutions, alongside advancing data management through AI and machine learning, adds further dimensions to operational efficiency and regulatory compliance.
Join industry leaders and professionals at our Maritime Users Conference to delve into these pressing issues. Discover innovative strategies, exchange insights, and collaborate on solutions that will shape the future of maritime operations.
https://www.exail.com/events/maritime-users-conference